Amid community pressure, Prince Recycling Center on Voltaire Street closes
by JUDI CURRY
Published - 07/02/18 - 07:39 PM | 5113 views | 21 21 comments | 32 32 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Prince Recycling Center clears out from the spot west of Stumps on Voltaire Street.
Prince Recycling Center clears out from the spot west of Stumps on Voltaire Street.
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I recently took my plastic bottles, my glass bottles, and my aluminum cans to the recycler only to find that June 30 was their last day of business. With Prince Recycling Center closing, I know that my recycling efforts will be changing – drastically. In spite of being a strong environmentalist, I doubt if I will be as diligent about saving the recyclables if I do not have an outlet to turn them in. 

I heard that the homeless were causing a problem at the recycling center and that is why it was closed. I tried to find incidents of crime attributed to these people, and was not successful. Homelessness is a problem all over San Diego; it doesn’t matter if there is a recycling center nearby or not. 

I also saw a the suggestion made to the community that they would stop shopping at the local market – Stumps – until the center was gone. That only made me shop at Stumps more, and I never had any encounter with a homeless person. Yes, they were there; taking the money that they had received from helping to clean up the environment to purchase food. I was also at Ralphs last week where I saw a homeless person shoplift some food and the manager of the store called the police. Shoplifting is not indigenous to Stumps.

The people of California passed the “Bottle Bill – No. 2020” in 1986. It states that if you charge people for “convenience items” you must provide a “convenient” place to take those items back. Hence the development of recycling centers. (Do you remember taking bottles back to the supermarket to get some change to spend on other goodies? I do.)

While I was in line today, there were seven people ahead of me. Not one of these people was homeless. We all talked to each other and lamented the fact that the nearest recycling center is over by San Diego State College. We talked about how much we would spend on gas to take our recycles there and how little we would be receiving in return.

We brought “Matt” into our conversation. He has worked at the center for two years. I asked him what was going to happen to him after tomorrow, and he said, “I imagine I will have to look for a job.” 

 I called Mr. Prince and talked to him. I asked him what would happen to Matt, and he told me that not only would Matt lose his job, eight others would also be laid off. He told me that he pays them a decent, living wage, a few dollars more than minimum. We have now added nine other people to the homeless group that the neighbors were so set against.

Prince told me that he was a native of the Point Loma area. His parents, daughter, and siblings live in the area. He said that he is in 100 percent compliance with the city and state laws. For the most part, the area if relatively clean; he doesn’t allow shopping carts, and his main clientele is not the homeless, but members of the community. He told me that he had offered to pay for a full-time security person during the day, but it was not accepted.

 This is my own personal opinion but I think the closing of the center is a great loss to conservation. The “convenience zone” that the center had established has helped keep the environment cleaner and has aided in fund-raisers for non-profit organizations; it acted as a method of  receiving “pay-back” for being a good citizen. 

Ocean Beach/Point Loma needs a place to recycle their items. I, for one, hope that Prince is allowed to bring back his recycling center to the area. The homeless is not a “recycling” problem; the homeless is a “homeless” problem.

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Chris Dobrowolski
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November 08, 2018
It is said that they kicked Prince Recyling out, Now for OB residents there is no place for them to go to recycling there stuff, I think now there will be more crime since people were making $11 to $60 per recylcing for food, and other necessities and they could not do it any more so they will have to start robbing stores and things like that to feed themselves. I know several people who make that much money a day recycling since they depend on the money. All people are not allowed to take recyling on Public transportation.
Ms Obeach
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October 06, 2018
TO: JOHN MARX, the ignorant slob

Craiig Toomey, high on mushrooms

BOBBY ROLOFFF, fake ass big man about town

MARIANNA SOARES [AKA: WHORE Fat A**]

MARCUS BLACK his real last name is N*gger

AND ALL THE OTHER FAKE ASS PEOPLE

Homeless people, druggies, are everywhere in San Diego, not just hanging out at recycling centers you ignorant tards with your head so shoved up into your assholes. Grow some balls and quit making up your stupid self-absorbing stories. I'm just saying.....you're all just a bunch of old has beens who have their sphincter in tight knot and just need to be f*cked hard.
Uneeda Shuturpiehole
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October 06, 2018
Marcus Black you ignorant POS! Shut your big hairy pie hole and go back to whatever hole you crawled out from. Go cry yourself a few buckets of blue recycling bins dumb loser. Point Loma& OB residents don't want to hear anymore crap from your bigot big a**. Why dont you go move out to La Jolla or Encinitas, oh, I forgot they wont let low class people like you live in their community. DEAL WITH IT LOSER.
The Boss
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August 10, 2018
What a bunch of arseholes in OB & Point Loma. You don't mind drunks and drug addicts and tourist barfing all over everything and displacing our families and communities, but homeless people you wont do a thing for. Those people are your family, your cousins, your community. Look at the nasty way that John Marx and Marianna Soares spoke to Geoff Page. What a couple of low life losers. They are the kind that aren't welcome in my community.Geoff thanks for your comments. I have seen over and over how a small group of pushy possessive big mouths in OB and Point Loma act like they are the police and dictators of what's welcome in our community. I get crime stats and the crime in OB and other areas around Point Loma is much worse than anything at a recycling center. I have to wonder if any of the complainers even recycle.

Bobby Rolofff - What trusted community leaders? Where are they? I have never seen anything remotely resembling that in San Diego. I have never seen such a bunch of apathetic unavailable do nothings.

San Diego doesn't mind 35 million visitors using up our resources but a handful of homeless is the end of the world. Shameful behavior. Immature. Did I say unavailable yet? Tired of the beta males,too. Can't be bothered to be a man and do men chores in your community.
Ms Obeach
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October 06, 2018
Right on BOSS MAN!!

I'm totally behind you on this!

Thank you for your intelligent response to those fakers!!
Bobby Rolofff
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July 17, 2018
This article is such BS and full of crap. It is not a true article just merely one persons opinion which means nothing and this article sucks.

Who the hell does not want a safer neighborhood, go back and look up past articles that this publication wrote, the community wanted this out of here years ago and they finally found trusted community leaders that helped them get their safety back in this neighborhood. The rest of you are jealous that you are not getting kudos from the community especially the Geoff Page character. Get Over it, majority of community wanted it gone. It does not matter whom you interviewed in line at Stumps.

Ms Obeach
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October 06, 2018
BOBBY ROLOFFF you are the one full of crap and BS!!

We want your kind out of our loving community, you can go to HELL, where you deserve to go.
Cindy Benner
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July 14, 2018
I hated to see Prince Recycling leave, but did find another one that is relatively convenient for people living in OB, Pt. Loma, and Loma Portal. It's Replanet Recycling behind Food For Less in Mission Valley at 7330 Hazard Center Drive
Craiig Toomey
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July 07, 2018
Dear Judy, I read your article in the July 5 Beacon with great interest. Your claim that there has been no crime or violence at the Prince Recycling Center at Stumps is totally false. It is quite obvious that you have not done any investigations as to the crime that has definitely occurred in and around the Stumps neighborhood. I have personally witnessed an woman threatened me and others in the Stumps Parking lot with a baton. She smashed in the glass door to the store, causing injury to an employee and shattering the glass. Two good Samaritans finally subdued this woman until the authorities came and hauled her off in an ambulance. I also have friends who live in Sea Colony who had their van broken in to twice and his work tools stolen. You can also consult with all the residents on Warden St,a major thoroughfare for the recyclers. There was definitely a problem with that recycle center located in a residential area. I say take it back to the old location on Midway, a commercial center well located and more convenient to all.Good riddance to Prince Recycler Center!!
Geoff Page
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July 09, 2018
Mr. Toomey, no one has ever proved that crime was a problem because of the Recycling Center. The opponents were asked many, many times for proof of crime and could not produce anything. The incident with the woman was sad, she was mentally ill, that kind of thing happens everywhere, it cannot be blamed on Prince. There is no way to connect the other things you mentioned with Prince either. This was just a scare tactic that unfortunately worked because people did not investigate the situation in any detail.
John Marx
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July 17, 2018
You are a kook Geoff Page. Loser! Shut the hell up!
Marianna Soares
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July 17, 2018
Geoff Page find a different hobby. The community won and you lost, so get lost loser!

We dont want you inthe community too.

Go get lost and leave elsewhere, go move near a recycle center. Obviously no proof was needed.
ms obeach
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October 06, 2018
CRAIIG TOOMEY i read your stupid post and you are totally full of BS. Make up some more LIES, you stupid fucktard.
John Marx
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October 06, 2018
I JOHN MARX, do apologize for my reckless and stupid comments.

I beg of you my community and family of neighbors and like minded simple losers like myself,

PLEASE FORGIVE ME - PLEASE! PLEASE!! I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID, BECAUSE I WAS JUST BEING AN ASSHOLE & AN IGNORANT SLUT BEING USED BY MARIANNA (BIG ASS) SOARES BECAUSE SHE OFFERED ALL THE MEN WHO SIDED WITH HER A SLOPPY BJ.

HOW DISTURBING IS THAT VISUAL?? BARF! BARF!
Iknowwhere Youlive
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October 06, 2018
CRAIIG TOOMEY, you are so full of crap!

GOOD RIDDANCE to you! Get the hell out of OB you retard.

I know where you live.
Janet Crow
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July 05, 2018
Judi-Thank you so much for your article in the Beacon. Below is what I posted on my FB the day I went last week. We need to find solutions to our community without having to "bully" people and make up claims when we don't like something! I hope we can find a way to create a new recycling center in this area!

"Today is a sad day. I went to Prince Recycling with my monthly collection of recyclables from my office and friends. We use the money to buy books for children ages 6 months to 5 years including many kids of our enlisted troops. Today similar to other days I am there, I stood in line with a couple that were recycling, a mom and son, a young person in their 20's and 2 older gentleman. The spirit of the place is always one of cooperation and respect. I never felt unsafe and often was helped both by the employees as well as other customers if I had a large number of cans filled with recycling. Tomorrow this center closes. My guess is that the people who cried for its closure never spent any time there. They simply made assumptions. July 1 there will be no place to recycle in OB or Point Loma. Those that spend their days collecting recycling to make ends meet will have more difficulty trying to get that needed money. There will be no change in the homeless issues in the area because that is not what this is about. Unfortunately. The closure of this center may serve to increase crime in some way if there is not opportunity for this meager income to be made by those living on the edge financially. For people like me, I can drive a longer distance to recycle (of course decreasing the benefit to my lowering the carbon footprint) but there are other organizations that will not have that option. Shame on those that made this an issue about homelessness! Shame on Stump's Market where I have been a loyal customer for 25 years. We are better than this. I hope that Mr. Prince is able to find a way to return to our community and that people understand the service that this business gives to people from all walks of life. Janet Crow MD"
Marcus Black
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July 17, 2018
Cry me a river use your blue bins or go to his other locations. Quit crying to everyone.
OBECIAN NATIVE
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October 06, 2018
Right on Ms Janet Crow! Nicely done!!
Robert Burns
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July 04, 2018
Prince is a prince, and his complainants (I've heard them at a planning group meeting) are from princely. This is sad.
Bob Thompson
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July 05, 2018
Does anyone know if the owners of the Loma Square property have been approached regarding the possibility of locating a recycling center in the southeastern-most corner of the mostly unused parking lot behind Home Goods? It seems to me that this would be ideal, as the location is easily accessible from OB, Point Loma, the Midway District, and Old Town. There are chainlink fenced between the parking lot and the Post Office property, as well as the Military housing. Access is available from Rosecrans and also from Midway Drive. Without a location for recycling in our community, those who wish to recycle their cans and bottles are forced to travel a minimum of five miles to do so.Moving Prince Recycling from the Stumps parking lot was never about crime. It was about fear of those less fortunate souls who depend on the cash they receive from their cans and bottles for their daily sustenance.
Marcus Black
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July 17, 2018
Nobody wants this crap and the crime and druggies it brings into their backyards. Midway said NO get it into your thick heads!

Use your blue bins you dont need the change back! Geezus.

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